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#1 mikeTO

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

Hi all. I'm a new 2012 owner. For those that kept the factory head unit and upgraded other components (particurlarly speakers), what did you end up going with? I want to retain the front end, but make some upgrades to sound quality. Thanks!






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#2 b17drvr

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:19 AM

Infinity 6x8's drop right in and sound good. Go to Crutchfield.com. They have a great selection and great customer service.

Also, Kicker has an upgrade system for the Mustang.

Edited by b17drvr, 06 April 2012 - 01:19 AM.

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#3 Fat Boss

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:24 PM

I put an iSimple interface on mine. It has an iPod cable that I routed out my console and an XM receiver. I hid the antenna so you can't see anything. I'm happy with it.

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#4 sadil

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:46 AM

Has anyone tried the kicker system, are there any specs for this system?
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#5 DBFIU

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:21 AM

Would also like to hear more input on the kicker system.



#6 b17drvr

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

I have installed the Kicker system for a few friends and it really sounds good.  It is an easy to install kit that uses the factory head unit. They specs are available on the Kicker website. That being said, most "specs" mean nothing. It is how the unit performs and sounds.


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and Steeda adjustable end links. Tokico D-spec struts/shocks. Steeda 3 point Torque Box Frame Rail Braces.
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:39 AM

Dropped in a full set of Pioneer TS-D6802R before I added the new head unit. The cost was reasonable and the sound fantastic. After buying a Metra face plate I did add on a Pioneer head unit and it got even better. Go here for some great install info: http://www.boss302fo...eer head unit

 

It is a lot of reading but certainly worthwhile. 


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

The radio in my Boss is a glorified dash clock/thermometer...

 

I blew up a woofer from a drop in Kicker DS component set in my pickup with the factory stereo in less than a month. It sounded great, but didn't last. Their higher end stuff is top notch, but stay away from the "value" sets. After that I went with Inifinity's. They sound great as well and are still working two years later.


Edited by cfus, 16 May 2013 - 07:53 PM.

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#9 b17drvr

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:30 PM

The factory amp is very low power and they blow speakers easily.  (they start clipping when you push them). A high power amp won't do that it is not working near as hard to keep up the db level and therefore not fry your speakers.


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MRT Interceptor Axle Backs and H-pipe. Shelby 1 Piece Driveshaft.  C&L Intake
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Barton Shifter.  Autopower Roll Bar.  5 point harnesses.
 
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BMR UCA, LCAs, Relocation brackets, and A arms. H & R springs. Steeda Panhard support, adjustable panhard rod,
and Steeda adjustable end links. Tokico D-spec struts/shocks. Steeda 3 point Torque Box Frame Rail Braces.
FRPP 3.73 gears, FRPP girdle, FRPP Headers, MRT H-pipe and exhaust. Shelby Extreme Brakes.
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#10 Rich B.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:19 AM

True about speaker problems, but has anyone installed a preamp only? Allows you to retain stock radio and just have to crack volume for loud high fidelity (remember before stereo?) output. Really rumbles the Woolfers. But is that what a Kicker DS is? Haven't done the stereo upgrade in probably two decades now, made repairs but that's it. Crutchfied's been around awhile now.

Edited by Rich B., 17 May 2013 - 03:26 AM.


#11 Sammykjr1

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:29 AM

True about speaker problems, but has anyone installed a preamp only? Allows you to retain stock radio and just have to crack volume for loud high fidelity (remember before stereo?) output. Really rumbles the Woolfers. But is that what a Kicker DS is? Haven't done the stereo upgrade in probably two decades now, made repairs but that's it. Crutchfied's been around awhile now.

Almost all of the aftermarket products have a preamp built in.  Been that way since the mid-90's.  Crutchfield..crap Rich, now I feel old.  I remember that catalog.  There are so many keys to getting to getting good audio, but once again, they had to cut costs somewhere to bring it in where they did.  Monster cables and good speakers will cure a lot.


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#12 SteelHorse

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:37 AM

I have installed the Kicker system for a few friends and it really sounds good.  It is an easy to install kit that uses the factory head unit. They specs are available on the Kicker website. That being said, most "specs" mean nothing. It is how the unit performs and sounds.
Have you added upgraded speakers to the kicker systems in any of the cars? I was wondering about any eq they add to the system to help the stock speakers? Good speakers will make a difference to the stock radio but I was looking to a little more power as well without putting a 5 channel amp in the trunk.

PS. Monster Cable is pure marketing hype.

Edited by SteelHorse, 17 May 2013 - 07:43 AM.


#13 Rich B.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:03 PM

I've heard that also about Monster Cable but looks impressive. I think some people think they move more sound through the what is it 10ga. cable maybe? Could run a clothes dryer with that stuff. Only sending a small electrical current through wires and the speaker's a transducer. Converts an electrical input to a mechanical output.

You don't want to conceal it either, that's meant to be shown off. Guess it won't hurt anything or will never have a voltage drop.

Edited by Rich B., 17 May 2013 - 05:03 PM.


#14 CA302LS

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:29 PM

Have you added upgraded speakers to the kicker systems in any of the cars? I was wondering about any eq they add to the system to help the stock speakers? Good speakers will make a difference to the stock radio but I was looking to a little more power as well without putting a 5 channel amp in the trunk.

PS. Monster Cable is pure marketing hype.

 

There certainly is a measure of that with MC, but isn't that true of most marketing efforts, including Ford, GM, whatever?

 

MC (and a few others) do produce a quality product, but in most cases is more spec than you'll ever need in a car. A case in point is MC's use of OFC (oxygen free copper). I truly doubt anyone could notice the difference in a car audio application. On the other hand, with high end audio equipment (source, pre, amp, equilizer, speakers) in an acoustically balanced room, some trained audiophiles could make the distinction. Big, big difference between that environment and car audio... 


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#15 Sammykjr1

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:58 PM

I used MC as an example because you can easily get low impedence with more copper.  It's simple electonics. 4ohms is better than 8ohms, etc.  Impedence matching is critical in any audio installation (or nuclear missiles).  Was just an example, I honestly don't care about branding when it comes to audio.  I read the specs, and they better not lie.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:54 PM

The specs don't lie, but the company that wrote them do.  IE: some will advertise: 1000 watts peak power! That is peak, (clipping and frying the speaker) when it's actual RMS* rating might be 50 watts.

* RMS is an abbreviation for Root Mean Squared. RMS power provides a calculation of the continuous power output that a set of stereo speakers can withstand without becoming damaged.


 

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and Steeda adjustable end links. Tokico D-spec struts/shocks. Steeda 3 point Torque Box Frame Rail Braces.
FRPP 3.73 gears, FRPP girdle, FRPP Headers, MRT H-pipe and exhaust. Shelby Extreme Brakes.
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#17 Sammykjr1

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:59 PM

I agree with you B17.  They should all have to post RMS power (Peak times 0.707).  I've seen some even advertise peak-to-peak, which is way misleading.  


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#18 Supertzar

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:33 PM

Anyone know if the Kicker kit that Shelby Parts makes for the base radio will work in the 12 Boss?  It comes with the 4.1 Amp, 4 speakers, and the trunk sub kit.  Their site says it only works for 2010-2011 base radio Mustangs.  Is the 2011 and 2012 base radio really different?



#19 Rich B.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 03:59 AM

Did they have the remote (steering wheel) controls, Sync and all that in 2011? Probably, I don't know my Mustangs.

It's been decades since I've heard or read about a discussion of sine waves. Almost forgot about such things, good refresher. Reminds me have to repair my o-scope (vacuum tube era) sometime. Ready for an upgrade by now I would imagine anyways.

Edited by Rich B., 19 May 2013 - 04:11 AM.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

Anyone who has changed out the stock speakers know the ohm rating on them? Are they 2 or 4 ohm?








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