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#1 docshelby

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:15 PM

Had the Boss out Sunday, the OEM shifter has to go(2nd to 3rd is a crapshoot)! I'm ready, MGW or Barton, recommendations please. Also where do you order them, for best price? Thank you!








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#2 IMZBOSS

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 03:40 PM

i went through tha same issue. i went with the MGW. never heard anything bad about thiers.


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#3 docshelby

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:00 PM

Where to order? Are they all same price?



#4 ainterne

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:04 PM

I went Barton http://www.bartonind...G-PRODUCTS.html   Not sure where you will find the best price.... American M may be a good choice.

 

I think the general consensus is that they are both very good and not much between them.   Which ever way you go  you will see a marked improvement, and when you see the old bracket come out you will know immediately why there is a marked improvement. 

 

Recommendations...  might help.....  :-)

 

When you've established all the pros and cons, heard everyone’s input, gone over it in your mind from every possible angle, and still agonized for days or weeks without being able to come to a decision, it’s time to pull out the coin.

 

Make one option heads, and the other tails. Hold the coin in your hand for a minute, visualizing the two options on either side. Take a deep breath, and toss the coin into the air.

 

Suddenly it doesn't matter which side the coin lands on – because you know which side you’re hoping it lands on.



#5 Highpower11

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 06:38 PM

i went with the Ford Racing Shifter and two post bracket (made by Barton). Levittown Ford (sponsor here) has the best pricing on it that I've seen thus far. I placed the order last Friday at 4:30pm and in less than 30-minutes it was shipped! UPS has it scheduled for tomorrow delivery. 



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 07:28 PM

http://www.mgwltd.com

 

MGW   all the way.   My car shifts better with age.   Drag racing?  Never miss a shift (unless it's my fault).

 

390.00 worth the wait and price.   Contact them; or call and ask to speak to George personally.  Great product and customer service.


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 08:47 PM

Also a fan and MGW convert. And it's absolutely true what they say about the more you drive it, the better it shifts. I also did the install myself and it wasn't that difficult. 

 

One thing I think we all agree upon is that the factory shifter has to go.


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#8 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:34 PM

I went with the MGW, and like it the best. It is a complete shifter replacement and I like the heat shield that I did not see offered with the Barton/Ford shifter. Don't misunderstand, Barton is good too, you just get more with the MGW. OBTW, the MGW 2-3 shift? Well you can just jam the shifter in the general direction of the dash and never miss third gear. Never. Good luck 2HP
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:52 PM

I also went with the MGW. It was easy to put in. I had the Ipad in the garage for the instruction video. If you read some of the negative comments about it (mostly noise), I don't think it applies to the Boss. A key experience to driving the Boss is the exhaust note.

I can't speak for the Barton, but changing from the factory is a must. Good luck and let us know.

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#10 docshelby

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:20 PM

Spoke to George today, put the order in. Any tips on getting the OEM ball off? I'd like the Stock look, but would like to see what his Boss 302 knob looks like. Anyone have pics of one? Thanks all! Really appreciate the help!



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:43 PM

Spoke to George today, put the order in. Any tips on getting the OEM ball off? I'd like the Stock look, but would like to see what his Boss 302 knob looks like. Anyone have pics of one? Thanks all! Really appreciate the help!


Use a small nylon or leather strap wrench. I used my leather belt and my pipe wrench, buy get the strap wrench. After you watch the install video, it's like you have done the job before.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:54 AM

Ask and you shall receive!

 

I am actually toying with the idea of putting the stock knob back on as the blue is not enough Kona for me. But then again...

You need to make sure you get that black shaft adapter should you go with the Speed Dawg Boss 302 knob. 

 

 

Spoke to George today, put the order in. Any tips on getting the OEM ball off? I'd like the Stock look, but would like to see what his Boss 302 knob looks like. Anyone have pics of one? Thanks all! Really appreciate the help!

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                                                                                      2012 Kona Blue Boss 302 - #2900

                                                               Ordered: 3/23/2011 - Build Date: 12/5/2011 - Delivered 12/21/2011

                                                                                        

                         TracKey - JLT Oil Separator -Moroso Coolant Overflow Tank - MGW Shifter/Heat Shield -  FRPP Clutch Line Upgrade - Shelby Transmission Cooling Scoop                            

                                               Driveshaft Shop 3-1/2 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft - Whiteline Gearbox Insert Bushing - BMR Front Driveshaft Safety Loop

                                            BMR LCAs & Adjustable Relo Brackets - BMR Adjustable Panhard Bar - FRPP Lowering T-Springs  - FRPP Rear Pedestal Spoiler  

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                                       Airaid CAI With Parnelli Jones Carbon Fiber Inlet Tub &  Modular Venturi Tube - FRPP 84.5MM Throttle Body - Borla ATAK Axlebacks

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                                               FRPP Front Brake Cooling Duct Kit - Hawk HP Ceramic Pads - Goodridge SS Brake Lines - Thermo-Tec Battery Heat Barrier Kit

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:14 PM

Yes, looks more like Grabber Blue!



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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:46 PM

Belt/pipe wrench, worked like a charm! Thank you, 02HP!


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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:01 PM

Just did MGW, and love it.  Did have a bit of an odd situation with the stock shifter ball though....had the factory blue loctite, as I was prepared for.  What I wasn't prepared for was for the threaded insert to actually strip and spin on the ball.  Just broke loose enough to allow the ball to spin without actually unthreading....so wound up drilling it out.

 

The shifter is a dream though.  The MT82 is still the sore spot for me, but this shifter makes me forget most of the time. 

 

To 302HP's point, you really can just shove the shifter towards the dash and it will go into 3rd.   Great product.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:46 AM

Just got my MGW shifter in.

What a nice piece of work! I'm anxious to get it in the Boss.

But first...

 

I have installed after market shifters before (but not MGW) and they can transmit some tranny / drive train noise.

 

For those of you that have installed a MGW, have you done any extra Dynamating to deal with NVH? (beyond what is specified in the instructions)

Or is it necessary with the MGW?

 

Appreciate your input.


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Original: 2013 Race Red with TracKey, Recaro seats and Torsen diff.

Performance Mods: JLT Oil Separator, MGW Shifter, Airaid PJ Carbon Fiber Intake, GT500 Mufflers (painted black), QTEC302 Electric Side-pipe Cutouts, FRPP 84.5 MM TB, FRPP SS Clutch Line, FRPP Brake Cooling Kit, GT500 13.8" Rear Brake Upgrade, Vorshlag SS Brake Lines, AE 4" Aluminum DS with BMR safety loop, Shelby transmission scoop.

Suspension Mods: Steeda Boss Lowering Springs, Steeda HD Strut Mounts, Koni Yellow Dampers, Whiteline Panhard Bar with Brace, Whiteline LCAs with Relo Brackets.

Appereance Mods: Sound Tube Delete, Race Red Bumper Plugs, CDC Illuminated 'Boss 302' Sill Plates, RedLine Hood Struts, Blacked-out Hood Vents, MRT Aluminum Rear Louvers, SHR Flush Quarter Louvers (matte black), SHR Custom Fuel Door (matte black with RR '302' lettering), Moroso Coolant Reservoir. Moroso Battery & Brake Fluid Covers.

Track Setup: Forgestar CF5 19x10" wheels (square configuration), Hoosier R6 295/35-19 R-compound tires.

Planned Mods: LS Rear Seat Delete & Cross Brace, CoolTech Roll Bar & Harnesses, CoolTech Tow Hooks, Kooks 1-7/8" shorty headers, MRT H-pipe, Lethal Gen2 Over-Axle Pipes, 500+ BHP (one way or another).


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

I installed the MGW shifter myself and followed the installation video to a tee and no issues with NVH. Used the mating they sent with the kit.


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                                                               Ordered: 3/23/2011 - Build Date: 12/5/2011 - Delivered 12/21/2011

                                                                                        

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                                               Driveshaft Shop 3-1/2 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft - Whiteline Gearbox Insert Bushing - BMR Front Driveshaft Safety Loop

                                            BMR LCAs & Adjustable Relo Brackets - BMR Adjustable Panhard Bar - FRPP Lowering T-Springs  - FRPP Rear Pedestal Spoiler  

                                                            Koni Sport Yellows Struts and Shocks - Maximum Motorsport Caster Camber Plates - Center Jacking Plates

                                       Airaid CAI With Parnelli Jones Carbon Fiber Inlet Tub &  Modular Venturi Tube - FRPP 84.5MM Throttle Body - Borla ATAK Axlebacks

                                                                       Mickey Thompson Street Comps - Forgestar CF5V 19x9 and 19x10 - DBA T3 / 4000 Series Rotors 

                                               FRPP Front Brake Cooling Duct Kit - Hawk HP Ceramic Pads - Goodridge SS Brake Lines - Thermo-Tec Battery Heat Barrier Kit

                                                            Roush 7 Billet Grille - Blowfish Racing Lower Front Grille and Tow Hook - Blowfish Shifter Support Bracket

                                                 

                                                   

 


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 04:50 AM

Just got my new MGW shifter installed in the boss.

So NICE!

That 2-to-3 shift is extra special :shift:


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Original: 2013 Race Red with TracKey, Recaro seats and Torsen diff.

Performance Mods: JLT Oil Separator, MGW Shifter, Airaid PJ Carbon Fiber Intake, GT500 Mufflers (painted black), QTEC302 Electric Side-pipe Cutouts, FRPP 84.5 MM TB, FRPP SS Clutch Line, FRPP Brake Cooling Kit, GT500 13.8" Rear Brake Upgrade, Vorshlag SS Brake Lines, AE 4" Aluminum DS with BMR safety loop, Shelby transmission scoop.

Suspension Mods: Steeda Boss Lowering Springs, Steeda HD Strut Mounts, Koni Yellow Dampers, Whiteline Panhard Bar with Brace, Whiteline LCAs with Relo Brackets.

Appereance Mods: Sound Tube Delete, Race Red Bumper Plugs, CDC Illuminated 'Boss 302' Sill Plates, RedLine Hood Struts, Blacked-out Hood Vents, MRT Aluminum Rear Louvers, SHR Flush Quarter Louvers (matte black), SHR Custom Fuel Door (matte black with RR '302' lettering), Moroso Coolant Reservoir. Moroso Battery & Brake Fluid Covers.

Track Setup: Forgestar CF5 19x10" wheels (square configuration), Hoosier R6 295/35-19 R-compound tires.

Planned Mods: LS Rear Seat Delete & Cross Brace, CoolTech Roll Bar & Harnesses, CoolTech Tow Hooks, Kooks 1-7/8" shorty headers, MRT H-pipe, Lethal Gen2 Over-Axle Pipes, 500+ BHP (one way or another).


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:35 AM

Just got my new MGW shifter installed in the boss.

So NICE!

That 2-to-3 shift is extra special :shift:

 

It only gets better.


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                                                                                      2012 Kona Blue Boss 302 - #2900

                                                               Ordered: 3/23/2011 - Build Date: 12/5/2011 - Delivered 12/21/2011

                                                                                        

                         TracKey - JLT Oil Separator -Moroso Coolant Overflow Tank - MGW Shifter/Heat Shield -  FRPP Clutch Line Upgrade - Shelby Transmission Cooling Scoop                            

                                               Driveshaft Shop 3-1/2 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft - Whiteline Gearbox Insert Bushing - BMR Front Driveshaft Safety Loop

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#20 JaxBoss

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:00 PM

Thought I'd put a link out to a great shift knob company, Epco, if you like the cue ball style shifter.  Just let them know you have an MGW and there's something they customize on the ball to better fit the shifter.   And I agree with all the posts made, just had mine installed and what a difference!  I've been so impressed with my Boss, however the whole shifting experience has been miserable until now.  Shame on Ford for providing such a poor OE shifter!  Now that I've used my MGW, it further highlighted how bad the OE shifter was!  No more slipping into reverse by accident, and no more blown 2-3 shifts!

 

http://www.epcomfg.com/ShiftKnobs.html






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