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Spare Tire Requirements For A Base Boss 302


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#1 25dc

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:03 AM

I just ordered a spare tire from Discount Tire Direct. My sales rep. was Brad and he was outstanding on all issues. Due to load requirements a Boss 302 needs a different tire size than a GT track pack car. 

He sold me the following tire/wheel combo to meet the Boss 302 needs.  

Wheel -  Drag DR- 31  18x8 5-100/114.48MGM  One-piece aluminum construction in matte gunmetal. $150.00

Tire - Milestar MS932 Sport  235/50R18XL 101V BSW.  $85.98  A good quality tire for a spare, it had good reviews.

Extra Parts Needed - 5 lug nuts to fit wheel and proper socket to fit. No Charge

Free Mounting and Shipping. Total Cost $238.98

Shipping Time Two Days

He stated that it accommodates the Brembo Brakes and Torsen Differential.I called Ford Racing and Torsen to verify that it will work. It will fit in tire wheel after letting some air out. I carry the Boss mobility air pump with me to return it to the proper pressure.   It does stick-up out of the tire well around 3/4" I used two 3/4" stadium cushions to even things out.

I found a auto recycle place that had a 05 Mustang GT in stock that was totaled. I purchased the complete jack kit including hold downs (which had never been used) for $35.00. It fits and works in all four jacking points. 

Hope this helps anyone needing information on a Boss Spare Tire. I have found Discount Tire Direct a good place to buy tires in the past.


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#2 guillaume69

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 04:40 PM

Did you try your spare wheel (front and rear) since you got it? How does it fit in the spare wheel well in the trunk? Do you have pics?

Thanks!
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#3 25dc

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 09:47 AM

No! I did not try it on my Boss. However, many guys with GT Track Pack Mustangs have done this for several years and Discount Tire Direct said this will work on the Boss too! However the Boss requires a 235/50R18 tire due to load limits. The GT can get buy with a 225/50R18. The spare fits in the well better if you let most of the air out of it. I carry my Boss mobility air pump with me to put the air back in. It has about a 3/4" raise above the floor and I used 3/4" stadium cushions both sides to even things out. I also purchased a Fender Gripper full truck mat from Latemodel Restorations for $50.00 for protection of the factory mat. I went to a late model junk yard and got a complete jack kit from a wrecked 05 Mustang GT which was never out of the trunk for $35.00. Here is a web site with pictures. Good Luck!

 

http://www.allfordmu...full-spare.html



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 12:06 PM

Would the stock Boss front rim and tire fit on the back?  I was thinking of picking up a stock rim and tire and keeping it as needed for a spare.  I know it won't fit in the trunk nicely but I typically drive within a 75 mile radius of home so if I get a flat I can just grab the spare front rim and limp the car home.

 

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#5 25dc

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 01:40 PM

Yes! A Boss front rim and tire can be used on the back. However they are very expensive new and hard to find used.



#6 guillaume69

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 05:48 PM

Excellent info and link! Many thanks for sharing this.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:47 PM

A little update here. I got all necessary parts from Ford and eBay to get new OEM jack, tools and associated missing trunk hardware. I ordered most of it through my Ford dealership, except for the jack, as I found a better deal on eBay ($50 new).

I ordered the spare wheel and tire today through Discount Tire Direct. I went with the DR31 wheel (18x8 + 35 offset; $150) and Falken ZE 612+ Tire (235/50/18; $106). If you choose to go that way, you want to talk to Adrian, from Discount Tire. He knows the issue of 11-14 Brembo Mustangs with no spare wheel. Very nice and helpful person. I can give his direct phone number via PM if needed. The spare wheel comes with 5 lugs and a specific key. Inflation specs are 35psi if mounted in front and 38 if mounted in the rear, to support the load.

I should get it Monday. I'll post pics of it installed (front/rear/trunk).

G

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:03 AM

Pretty sure the jacks have been identical to those on all similiar lines of Fords. My '90 Escort was the same but may be subtle differences. Very nice addition.

Edited by Rich B., 26 September 2014 - 05:05 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 07:23 AM

Received the spare wheel yesterday. Beautiful. Gonna play with it later today.

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 01:59 PM

Very happy with the way this turned out. Wheel fits nicely on front and rear. Looks real good as well on the car. My wife actually prefers it to the stock wheels...

Only thing is you have to deflate it to make it fit in the wheel well. So obviously, electrical air pump stays in the trunk, in a nice bag.

G

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 06:29 PM

G Man:

That is by far the best solution for a spare tire that I have seen, and I've seen a few over the past 3 years. Well thought out, nicely executed and documented to share with other members.

Thank you ever so.
Kind Regards,
Dave

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:03 AM

^^ Agree.

Nice writeup and pics.

A great solution.

Thanks G69.

 

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 05:21 AM

May have to buy 4 more of the new wheels now guillaume69 LoL....

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 06:12 AM

Rich, believe it or not, that's exactly what my wife told me... Lol
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 04:41 AM

Rich, believe it or not, that's exactly what my wife told me... Lol

You have a beautiful setup there, it's almost as if you can't wait to get a flat more than doing a quarter miler? Really nice to have that confidence if you have a flat, no problems. Some of them the air pump and slime won't fix, especially if you loose the rim seal.

See too you have that quirky squibbly sealer/calk in your trunk. Mine looks like somebody tried to sign his name with it, like decorating a cake. This would make a great new forum "Exposing Your Trunk", trying not to LoL on this.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 10:08 AM

Let's call it "Pimp your Trunk".

Rich, what's under your trunk carpet is like your underwear: it must be clean and "displayable" at all times, as you never know what's coming ahead. A little while ago, I fell pretty badly with my motorcycle, as a car moronically decided to pull out of a side street right in front of me. Bike crashed in the car, and I flew over it in a near perfect imitation of Superman. Somehow, as I made contact with Earth again, my trousers got ripped off. I only realized when someone mentioned it to me after checking on me in the ditch. LOL .
You're right, the caulk thing in the trunk looks a little "odd". And you are spot on about some artist somewhere along the assembly line wanting to sign his work. I've seen pics of 69 Boss 302 trunks (quarter panel inside) that had the word "boss" hand written in cursive with a caulk gun, from factory. Kinda cool if you ask me.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 12:55 PM

I have a question for those of you that are "Torsen Diff rear end professionals".
This spare wheel (235/50/18), when mounted on the rear, will actually perform 750 revs per mile while the stock rear wheel (285/35/19) on the other side will go 740. So we are talking about a 10 revs per mile difference here. To which extent could this potentially hurt the Torsen Diff? Is it a matter of speed and distance? Distance only? I knew this from scratch, but thought it was only a minor difference. Could I be wrong?
 
Thanks for your insight on this.
 
G

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 02:18 PM

I beleive our rearends are limited slip. So some slipping will be had causing some extra wear. If this is bad I don'think so because in every turn the wheels turn at different speeds. Your computer will be a little confuse too. My 295 30 19 hoosier slicks on 10 in. wheel fits nicely in trunk wheel well. Lots of trunkspace fo the rest of raceday tools. Is'nt it rediculous to have spare laws?I'm expert at nothing. Gill, are you an American ? 'Yo english is very good.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 08:38 PM

I am not American, LSeco. But appreciate the comment! I have been working in FL (USAF) for almost 3 years, though. I'll be going back to France next summer, at the end of my tour, with a very nice 2013 GB Boss! ;-)

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:18 PM

I have a question for those of you that are "Torsen Diff rear end professionals".
This spare wheel (235/50/18), when mounted on the rear, will actually perform 750 revs per mile while the stock rear wheel (285/35/19) on the other side will go 750. So we are talking about a 10 revs per mile difference here. To which extend could this potentially hurt the Torsen Diff? Is it a matter of speed and distance? Distance only? I knew this from scratch, but thought it was only a minor difference. Could I be wrong?
 
Thanks for your insight on this.
 
G


Assuming you ment to type 740 or 760 and the difference is 10 revolutions per mile, this would be 1 revolution per 1/10 mile. This does not seam to be much, but if you go to the Torsen website, they are pretty set on same diameter rear wheels.

The Torsen does limit slip, but it does it with gears and is much different than a traditional limited slip diff with clutch packs. It is a torque sensing and multiplier, and it acts as an open differential until it senses slippage, (different speed of rear tires) so your set up with running the spare tire will make your Torsen work overtime.

Remember, the Torsen is also a torque multiplier, so when it does sense wheel slippage, (the smaller tire), it will multiply X 2.5 the amout of torque to the opposite side. (Note: Torsen T2 diff = X 2.5 and the Race Spec T2R = X 10).

So, it could be working more than we think. Best thing to do if used on the rear is to limit the speed and distance of the spare use on the rear axle.

With that said, I would recommend that you contact Toresn Manufacturing, they will give you the best information. Have the exact wheel/tire diameter ready for each tire. Maybe the difference is so slight the Torsen wouldn't pick up or sence a wheel slip condition? This I don't know, but contact them to make sure you don't run the risk of overheating your rear diff gear lub. That is when the real damage will occur and is why speed and distance are important factors.

Hope this helps,
Dave

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