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#161 TMSBOSS

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 07:43 PM

Not certain the paint on the differential cover will pass heat as well as a bare metal cover. Ford claims the finned aluminum cover helps cool the differential oil.

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 04:52 AM

Yes you are right, but i think it will not make a Problem or causing a Overheating for the Oil



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 12:19 PM

I found on my 13 the diff cover had no drain or fill holes.

Replaced with a Ford Racing cover so I can now change fluid.



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 08:58 PM

Yes you are right, but i think it will not make a Problem or causing a Overheating for the Oil

 

If you plan on taking the car to the ring, and why not??  Rear oil overheat with Stock Boss systems can be expected.  Remove some of the cooling potential and expect oil to push out the breather.  Mine did.  

 

Simple fix for this is to add a breather can.  A flexible line from the current breather location to a small can located above the axel fixes the problem.  When the oil is pushed out of the breather, it collects in the can and drains back once you stop and the system and oil cools.  Place the breather valve on the output side of the breather can and the system is complete. 

 

Shelby and a few other companies offer a kit.  


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Posted 25 August 2016 - 05:27 AM

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I have a Turkey Baster on. Do you think that would be enough? (Picture is not from me)



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Posted 25 August 2016 - 06:26 AM

Here's what I'm using with my FRPP finned racing cover. Does the trick. 

 

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 07:22 AM

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I have a Turkey Baster on. Do you think that would be enough? (Picture is not from me)

 

Most Track Rats I have heard from first used the turkey baster and then moved to the can after the baster failed.  I skipped the baster.  


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Posted 26 August 2016 - 07:43 AM

Here's what I'm using with my FRPP finned racing cover. Does the trick. 
 
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TS:

If you have mounted this breather can in a vertical position with the expansion tube located on the side as pictured, I don't see how the oil, (from heat expansion), can return to the differential housing once cooled.

The expansion tube should mount to the bottom of the breather can to allow gravity return of the oil.

How is this mounted to your Boss in the configuration pictured above?

Just thinking out loud here, but want to make sure your setup is not trapping differential oil.

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:24 PM

Here is a link to the Bobs diff can.

Simple concept. As fluid heats up and is pushed out the breather, the oil collects on the can which is mounted above the differential. As it cools, the fluid drains back.

http://shop.bobsauto...e-reservoir.htm

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Posted 02 September 2016 - 02:29 PM

TS:

If you have mounted this breather can in a vertical position with the expansion tube located on the side as pictured, I don't see how the oil, (from heat expansion), can return to the differential housing once cooled.

The expansion tube should mount to the bottom of the breather can to allow gravity return of the oil.

How is this mounted to your Boss in the configuration pictured above?

Just thinking out loud here, but want to make sure your setup is not trapping differential oil.

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It is mounted upright and the hose connected to the bottom , not to the side as pictured. That was the photo I got from the gent who sold the kit to me. 


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Posted 03 September 2016 - 04:32 AM

TS:

I was thinking about you BBRM, I saw the pic and had to mention that.

Sure makes one wonder how in the heck did the Seller have it mounted?

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Posted 03 September 2016 - 07:51 AM

Dave,

 

I think he must have pulled it off and took off the hose to clean it up for sale and then inadvertently put the hose on the side. 

 

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:13 AM

Good morning Boss brothers!

Today is an important day for my Boss 302 and I, as I finally decided to go on and order the MGW shifter. Watching their install video made me mod hungry as hell... What a wonderful piece of technology, that thing. And I believe I'll be able to do the install myself, which makes the whole deal even more exciting!

Before I pull the trigger though, I need to ask a question: as this shifter has matured a lot since we started talking about it on this forum, MGW now offers 4 different options for the Boss, all priced the same:
- Race Spec
- X Spec
Both with standard or short handle.

I read their website carefully and am inclined to choose the X Spec with the standard handle. No Track days, no Racing here, just street delights.

Could you guys give me your impressions on these 4 options? Is Race Spec w/ short handle comparable to X Spec w/ std handle, for example? Is the difference between Race and X Specs significant?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:50 AM

I only have experience with the race spec but I love it.

One thing that I'll say on the install, remember to put the dynomat on the shifter and mounts before mounting it in the car. I forgot this step and ended up pulling it back down to stick on the dynomat.

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:12 PM

Yep, the video made that pretty clear, except for the square part that goes underneath that he put after the install.

I'll try not to forget. Thanks!

Edited by guillaume69, 03 March 2017 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:24 AM

I had the GEN I MGW installed first and then did the swap out MGW offered when they came out with the Race Spec version. At that tyme, MGW did not offer the short stick version. One thing to keep in mind is how a shorter version may affect your shifter boot. 


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 10:28 AM

TS,

You mean short vs standard handle?

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:51 AM

Yes, I thought he was asking about the handle and not the throw. I 'm not sure how much shorter the handle is in the low profile handle but it seems to me the boot will be squashed down and the mounting of the knob could be affected. 


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