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"Experts" View - Boss 302 vs Shelby GT350


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#1 BDAutobahn

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Posted 07 May 2016 - 08:38 PM

http://www.roadandtr...-mustang-gt350/

 

I guess I'm feeling pretty fortunate to live in a time where these are two of our choices.  Some nights you want a great steak, others you want fine seafood.  Both are excellent.


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#2 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 07 May 2016 - 10:21 PM

http://www.roadandtr...-mustang-gt350/
 
I guess I'm feeling pretty fortunate to live in a time where these are two of our choices.  Some nights you want a great steak, others you want fine seafood.  Both are excellent.


Your certainly right about these times as even the good old days weren't this good.

But IMO, more of an apples to oranges comparison. The Boss 302's are so good that many still have to use the Boss 302 as the Bench Mark for Mustang comparisons. But it's old tech and the the Shelby is new tech.

The Shelby is a great car, but it's a Shelby. The Boss is still a very special Mustang that will always have its place in Mustang history as the High Water Mark of the live rear axle Mustangs which spans 50 years of continuous production.

The 1970 Boss 302 Mustang is an SCCA Championship Icon, The 2012 Boss 302 Mustang is also an SCCA Championship Icon, with identical winning racing seasons with driver Paul Brown, (RIP). (1970 v. 2012) Both cars won the Manufacturers, Team, and Drivers Championships.

I will always be a Boss 302 Mustang fan. You see, there just something extra special about our cars.

With all that said, the new Shelby GT350 R is most likely the absolute best performance car for the money, (using MSRP), on the market today.

I think that is a great video and thank you so much for posting. Who's next and what are your thoughts? Shelby, or Boss?

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#3 Rich B.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 05:01 AM

So true as the good ole days sucked. But who had anything to compare with, here in ME any Mustang seen is automatic Shelby. Is it what one has in their garage these days? Yup, is all that's said if asked. Try to explain the difference, they don't care.

#4 Calif boss302

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 12:41 PM

Great Video!.  Interesting that the owner of both cars "Justin" likes the Boss better. (Skip to 16:35 on the video).  He says "It scares him more".  Could be the SBY :happy feet:

 

I still want to drive the GT350 to see if it warrants the extra dollars.


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#5 Ginger

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 02:03 PM

If I wanted a Shelby back in 2011 when I bought my Boss, I would have made the purchase. You can not compare the GT350 to the Boss. I will say one thing....I'll bet 30 years from now the Boss will be remembered as an all time great car to have way more than the GT350. The Boss has soul!!

The only way she's leaving home is to make me a stupid offer which would be a Very Smart sale on my behalf!

But that will happen.

However I have noticed the amount of stupid people are increasing.


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#6 Gravedigger

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 05:58 AM

Attached File  IMG_4978.JPG   127.17KB   1 downloadsAttached File  IMG_4979.JPG   125.07KB   0 downloadsA nice review of the new Mustang GT 350 in a German Sportswear Magazin. They tested him on the Sachsenring. A German Racetrack in the east. They test all the Sportscars there and have a All Time Ranking. Interesting is that the Camaro Z28 was nearly 2 seconds faster and the Boss 302 Laguna Seca over 2 seconds slower than the GT 350.

All Time best is the TIKT Corvette ZR1 Triple X Evo with 1.28,44 minutes. Ford Mustang GT 350 1.37,12 Minutes. Lap time. 


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#7 bossy13

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Posted 23 October 2016 - 03:58 PM

Just stumbled across this video & review.

(geez - where have i been ?)

Nice to see the Boss 302 still holding up well.

Extra connection for me with this video as those are the same backroads I romp around on.

 

Sure - the 350 is superior in many regards, but still there is something truly unique about our limited production 302s.

Will be interesting to see how the test of time recognizes/rewards these two special Ford performance cars.

 

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#8 Sydewaysix

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 03:20 AM

My take on this comparison is that the GT350, though an awesome automobile, seems a bit too refined with all its gadgets and accessories, taking away from the "aggressive muscle car" feel that we all crave for. The Boss 302 on the other hand, is so "stripped down" from all the bells and whistles that we still get to experience the raw feel of a "racecar/muscle car."

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the GT350, but I have no doubts and/or regrets purchasing the Boss 302 for merely half the price of a new base model GT350.
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#9 Jet

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 08:34 AM

Drove the GT350 the other day. I prefer The Boss...............................but 8200 RPM shift points were nice, and IT DOES handle better than The Boss. Feeling is NOT the same, Im staying with my L.S.

 

 

JMHO


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#10 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 09:59 AM

The 2012/13 Boss 302's represent the pinnacle of NA, Live Rear Axle Mustang performance. They have a Brutish quality, that is designed out of the new IRS platform Mustangs.

Mine is a keeper,
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#11 guillaume69

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 03:36 PM

Check this out. I call this a "feel good" movie... 😎

https://www.youtube....h?v=VV0zVcU9Z64

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#12 cholmes1

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 03:54 PM

attachicon.gifIMG_4978.JPGattachicon.gifIMG_4979.JPGA nice review of the new Mustang GT 350 in a German Sportswear Magazin. They tested him on the Sachsenring. A German Racetrack in the east. They test all the Sportscars there and have a All Time Ranking. Interesting is that the Camaro Z28 was nearly 2 seconds faster and the Boss 302 Laguna Seca over 2 seconds slower than the GT 350.

All Time best is the TIKT Corvette ZR1 Triple X Evo with 1.28,44 minutes. Ford Mustang GT 350 1.37,12 Minutes. Lap time. 

 

Building off your post here is the 'official' lap board for Sachsenring.  Looks like the Boss LS is #141 and the GT350 is #77.  Very interesting to look at the vehicles that surround them both...

 

http://fastestlaps.c...cks/sachsenring

 

I agree with the above postings.  Having driven both, the 302 certainly has a more 'soulful' feeling to it than the GT350.  Sort of like a sterile scalpel and the well used knife.  The GT350 is certainly a more tightly wound machine in every way and performs more sharply, but the 302, even the LS, does not seem like that was its ultimate purpose.  Given that the GT350 production numbers have already well surpassed the 302's I would say short of the 2015 models, which were limited to 137, we will likely come out ahead in most every respect.

 

What I do find confusing is that Shelby mustangs are given so much more cache than the 302's....both old and new.  Given the production numbers it does not really make sense to me beyond just name recognition


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#13 Boss0185

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:14 AM

Owned both and back in a boss now. The raspy exhaust can be annoying @ Times. The boss has more low end torque which on the street feels faster. Never liked the front end of the 350. Looked hard and long for a red low mileage 13 boss. Sold the 350 over a year ago and didnt take a hit since I bought it used in the first place. The voodoo engine might have ( vibration related ) issues long term. The boss has soul and the Shelby 350 is a mustang ( lots of engineering) that Ford put an Shelby emblem on. The 07/08 Shelby GT and GT-H both have some soul from Shelby because they spent time there.
There are a lot of used 350s in the market now and seem to have taken a pretty good depreciation hit. People that paid a hefty ADM are really taking a hit if they trade in their 350. Both cars are great track type cars but I think the boss will hold its value better over time.

Edited by Boss0185, 24 December 2017 - 04:10 PM.

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#14 TymeSlayer

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:32 AM

Nothing, like a Boss!


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:42 PM

Owned both and back in a boss now. The raspy exhaust can be annoying @ Times. The boss has more low end torque which on the street feels faster. Never liked the front end of the 350. Looked hard and long for a red low mileage 13 boss. Sold the 350 over a year ago and didn’t take a hit since I bought it used in the first place. The voodoo engine has some issues long term. The boss has soul and the Shelby is just a mustang that Ford put an emblem on. The 07/08 Shelby GT has some soul from Shelby.

 

Two different cars.....completely. If mama said to sell 'em all....you can only keep one..... the BOSS would still be in the garage. ;) 


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

I'm far from an expert on a Shelby GT350, but have a little experience with it (none driving) and a bit of experience with other S550's. The GT350 is hands down more capable. It's awe-inspiring and a very impressive car. If I could have both, I'd buy one in a heart beat. But the Boss 302 has charm or soul like others have said. I don't know if it's the almost brutish simplicity in comparison to modern cars that are this capable, the pedigree, the looks, or a combination (probably a combination). There's just something about it. And for what it's worth, I have been told several times my car sounds better on track, which is all stock except for baffle plates removed and axle backs. The old school rumble with the Track Key, going 7,000+ rpm, WOT, with the noise bouncing off the concrete barriers at the start/finish line.. it's very hard to beat. 

 

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