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Trade in Boss 302 for a 2017 Ford Focus RS?


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#1 SpecMiata_Driver

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 09:03 AM

You guys will have to forgive me, but I'm thinking about trading in my 2012 Boss 302 for a new focus RS (AWD, 350 hp turbocharged). But, I'm already having sellers remorse if I do that. On the other hand, the Focus RS equals or outperforms the Boss 302 and is far more practical being a 5-door hatch. Plus, it'd be my daily driver. The Boss 302 gets driven about 4000 miles a year.

What do you guys think?
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#2 SavetheManuals

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:58 AM

Personally, I would never trade in the Boss for a Focus RS, and although an RS would be a sweet daily, I'd still rather daily the Boss. I much prefer the feeling of and the skill required for limit driving with a RWD, V8 powered muscle car, and you can't beat the looks and sounds of the Boss. Plus the Boss just feels special. There's no denying the RS is a great car but I think you would regret trading in such a unique car with so much legacy, presence, and performance potential. From a financial perspective, the RS will probably depreciate faster, and the Boss might even become collectible one day. My 2 cents.

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#3 LS239

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM

The thought of owning the new RS is great and would be fun ...but then what after it wears off.  You know the BOSS brings feelings and excitement every time you turn the key. These cars are special..and I think you will have the dreadful feeling of regret and want the BOSS back..just my Opinion...I did have my BOSS for sale but took it off market and glad I did.


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#4 Rich B.

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 02:33 PM

You guys will have to forgive me, but I'm thinking about trading in my 2012 Boss 302 for a new focus RS (AWD, 350 hp turbocharged). But, I'm already having sellers remorse if I do that. On the other hand, the Focus RS equals or outperforms the Boss 302 and is far more practical being a 5-door hatch. Plus, it'd be my daily driver. The Boss 302 gets driven about 4000 miles a year.
What do you guys think?

I can understand this if a car is used for daily commute. We've had 2 Fiestas and love the idea of the small car you can put a lot of stuff in and the garage room is extrodinary. Would get an actual 42 MPG with combo city/highway. Ford actually sent us a rebate for false advertising on that but they were quite correct on estimates.

For me, I wouldn't have a Boss Mustang, a 2SS Camaro or Corvette for back and forthing. But when you want to just get out and drive around awhile, yup...... My Boss, haven't hit 4,000 OD in 5 years yet.

Con't.: After seeing latter posts.... Those aren't actually the economy version though. Vs a Boss can't see much in the way of savings, opposite? Don't think I would want one myself but I could see uptrade to a Fiesta or Focus but not so extreme. In fact I wouldn't mind having another one just to shuttle around in and run errands.

Can have the best of both worlds, but maybe if a lot of racing is involved would be an entire new set of rules with a Focus I'd imagine. Buland's comments hit the nail on the head.

Edited by Rich B., 02 March 2017 - 05:21 AM.

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#5 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 06:59 PM

Wow, that is a big decision. But as a Boss 302 owner with a lot of WRX STi experience, there is not a 4 cylinder engine on the planet that makes me smile like I do when I start up the Boss U-Code Hi-Po 302 CID V8 engine. None.

If you need a daily driver buy the Focus, but keep your focus on the Boss.

Good luck with your decision
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#6 Dimo

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:55 PM

You guys will have to forgive me, but I'm thinking about trading in my 2012 Boss 302 for a new focus RS (AWD, 350 hp turbocharged). But, I'm already having sellers remorse if I do that. On the other hand, the Focus RS equals or outperforms the Boss 302 and is far more practical being a 5-door hatch. Plus, it'd be my daily driver. The Boss 302 gets driven about 4000 miles a year.

What do you guys think?

How does the RS outperform the 302? The RS' have been out over here in Europe for over a year now, and the ones I have driven with on track days are not Boss 302 quick. More Evo, STI, Golf R speeds


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#7 buland

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:20 AM

A Boss 302 is not the same as a RS. The RS is a fast DD with AWD and has not the special character from a Boss. like 302 HI Pro said nothing can be compared with the U-Code. The RS has more potential for technical issues. Here in Europe we have a lot of Engine Failures. It has enough Power to beat most of the other Hot hatch and make a lot fun to drive the roads in the canyons. he is the king of the corners. what i see in the states are high adm over msrp. on the ghig boss i have more than 25k miles with no problem and the rs has 7k miles and he was 2 times at the dealer for warranty issues.

i would keep the Boss and buy a RS for DD.

 

if you have Specific questions about the rs let me know.

 

a good forum is this: http://www.focusrs.org/

 

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#8 dsls584

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:50 AM

Just read an article comparing 6 "lower end" sports cars. I don't recall which mag but it was one of the major publications (e.g. Motor Trend, Car and Driver, etc.). Focus RS came in dead last. The engine was praised but the ride was beyond harsh. As a track car it could be fun but as a DD, I think you'd come to dislike it unless all of your roads are as a smooth as glass. I test drove a Focus ST before settling on a Mustang GT w/PP and the ride in the Focus was horrible. Made the Mustang feel like a Buick. If it were me, I'd totally keep the Boss!
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#9 falcongtho3

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 07:03 AM

Much of the hype on the RS has disappeared since deliveries began because other than being fun in sideways situations, the real world testing has been less than stellar especially in day to day living.


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#10 TymeSlayer

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:41 AM

Not knocking the RS at all but if you're thinking of trading the Boss for one, I'd say retaining you man card would be in serious jeopardy.  ;)


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#11 Rich B.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 06:30 AM

So how does this story end? I've had many fast (er) cars over the years and I certainly wouldn't trade my Boss for a Focus, mine is only a 6 month a year driver too. But for every day and especially daily distances, I'd be trading as that makes for a necessity not a nicety. A Boss could get real old, real quick used like that.

Wife bought a Subaru Justy in '94 (lmao) and somehow I ended up with it. Narrow 12" wheels, unstoppable in the snow and I had a 32 mile drive each way (my preference). 44 miles to the gallon, 3 cylinder engine...... Loved it. Floods in the Spring, forged every road and didn't care if the thing floated down stream while crossing. After a decade with 175K on the OD, oh well.

Enough space in the garage for 2 of them in a single stall. This was a back roads/woods driver, never broke down. Put a '13 Boss 302 into that scenario? Naw, think not. Wasn't the time for the car yet or my buying one.

Edited by Rich B., 07 March 2017 - 06:41 AM.


#12 ZeroGER

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 08:30 AM

This thread is puzzling me for some days now, I thought this subforum was about competing products :lurk:



#13 Rich B.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:03 PM

Yes, would of thought something like a Camaro would go here. I had threads awhile back on them but in with the new. Must be interpretation, nothing mentioned by monitors. Now I can relate to most comments and where and how things get off on a tangent, have done myself.

Consider this forum quite organized, also noted TMO has made big improvements there also. Have to get a bit more used to their cataloging system but guess it works for their members.

Edited by Rich B., 07 March 2017 - 02:11 PM.


#14 ZeroGER

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:15 AM

I was not too serious, just can't see that nutshell replacing a Mustang :)


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#15 SpecMiata_Driver

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 02:08 AM

I decided that I like my Boss 302 too much to part with. It really is a special and fun car. Every time I park it, I find myself looking back at it and remarking how nice it looks. These are really cool cars!

I'm still looking for an economical DD and one neat option is the Fiesta ST. Decent gas mileage, hatchback, 200 hp, and fun to drive. I test drove one and really liked it. But I'm keeping the Boss.
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#16 Rich B.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 03:28 AM

Do the same, look back at car several times to insure I'm not parked on a down slope or any stray shopping carts around to roll into it (never fails).

#17 buland

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 12:42 AM

I decided that I like my Boss 302 too much to part with. It really is a special and fun car. Every time I park it, I find myself looking back at it and remarking how nice it looks. These are really cool cars!

I'm still looking for an economical DD and one neat option is the Fiesta ST. Decent gas mileage, hatchback, 200 hp, and fun to drive. I test drove one and really liked it. But I'm keeping the Boss.

 

 

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#18 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 06:34 AM

Buland:

So, was that a favorable Focus ST review? Also, did you part with one of your 2013 Boss 302's for the Focus RS? If so, sorry but I seemed to missed that.

Falcongtho3:

I'd have to agree, there was so much automotive media buzz on the Focus RS prior to customer deliveries. It was supposed to a drift track monster. But I haven't seen or heard much about the RS lately.

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#19 buland

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 08:22 AM

Buland:

So, was that a favorable Focus ST review? Also, did you part with one of your 2013 Boss 302's for the Focus RS? If so, sorry but I seemed to missed that.

Falcongtho3:

I'd have to agree, there was so much automotive media buzz on the Focus RS prior to customer deliveries. It was supposed to a drift track monster. But I haven't seen or heard much about the RS lately.

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302 Hi Pro: do you mean the first pic in my last post above? this is a summary from the key features from the all new Fiesta ST that was introduced at the Geneva Autoshow this Spring.

And no, i have still all 3 Mustang in my stable :-)

 

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