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#1 BossyBlue302

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 03:40 PM

Seen a ton of posts and opinions on trackey and custom tunes. 

 

I bought my Boss used from a Ford dealer and asked on three occasions if the trackey had been installed.  Was told yes each time.  Long story short, I am not so sure now that it has it. 

 

I am going to contact Ford and give them the VIN to try to verify if it ever had it or not. 

 

I did try the IPR and no change. 

 

I know you have to have a voucher which is worse than a needle in a haystack.  I have found some on Amazon but it appears for Canada  only because it will not ship to the US. 

 

So here is my question to all your guys out there who know a lot about tuning.  Since the Boss has a silver key side and red key side in the PCM, can a custom tuner like Lunds or JMS install a the tune on the red key only and allow the silver key to be stock mode.  If this is possible it would be a great alternative for those of use who were told it was already installed only to find out it wasn't. 

 

Also, has anyone heard anything more about the possibility of Ford releasing the Track Cal for the Boss?








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#2 BossyBlue302

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 03:15 PM

Update:  Talked to Ford and fears were confirmed....no Trackey tune ever installed.  Also talked to JMS and they said they could not tune to an individual key.  Shame, it would be a great alternative to the Trackey


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#3 Rich B.

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:46 PM

Update:  Talked to Ford and fears were confirmed....no Trackey tune ever installed.  Also talked to JMS and they said they could not tune to an individual key.  Shame, it would be a great alternative to the Trackey

Thought the same thing myself if that could be done (don't think so). With TK (way mentioned many times) activated the center screen will default showing activation and again when 170 deg. engine temp is reached for lopey idle. Have to manually reset for each phase display.

To be con't.: I remember now (extra Cod Liver Oil this morning), wanted to use my TK as regular mode and modify Silver Key for a even more radical program. But think it would interfere with TK parameters, leave well enough alone......

Edited by Rich B., 05 April 2017 - 03:06 AM.

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#4 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 06:50 PM

Back in the day, the 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 was an award winning vehicle: it was hailed as the Best Performance Mustang ever made. C&D Top 10 list and the U-Code engine was awarded with Wards Best.

The dual-program PCM was as hailed as an industry first RPO. TK was long awaited by early Boss 302 Owners, CA CARB delayed certification until end of 2011 release.

Many Aftermarket tuners have tried, but Fords dual-path PCM is Bullitt proof. All in all, there is a lot of Automotive history associated with our S197 Boss 302's. Still a great Mustang!

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#5 Tnelson184

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:49 PM

Dang CARB making our TracKey less than Ford intended it to be. I would've loved to see what TracKey was before CARB got their mitts on it!

Not sure if what I was told is true, but I was told on a Facebook group that if you already have TracKey installed you could have another aftermarket tune installed with the silver key and be able to switch between the two.
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#6 Rich B.

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 03:47 AM

Was my thoughts exactly, if they were 2 completely independent entities. But if the TK was parasitic on the SK program (t-tapped) it would ruin both. It may only integrate those changes as required for that upgrade while keeping the fundamental stock tune intact. They speak of 600 changes or some number which is a hint to me the foundation of it all is there using SK (Silver Key) and may not be completely separated.

Point is FB could be right if somebody's actually done this, that'd be great. Oops, it appears 2 same topic forums and titles running back to back here this A.M.

Edited by Rich B., 06 April 2017 - 04:11 AM.


#7 schoolboss

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:04 PM

Back in the day, the 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 was an award winning vehicle: it was hailed as the Best Performance Mustang ever made. C&D Top 10 list and the U-Code engine was awarded with Wards Best.

The dual-program PCM was as hailed as an industry first RPO. TK was long awaited by early Boss 302 Owners, CA CARB delayed certification until end of 2011 release.

Many Aftermarket tuners have tried, but Fords dual-path PCM is Bullitt proof. All in all, there is a lot of Automotive history associated with our S197 Boss 302's. Still a great Mustang!

302 Hi Pro

 

Been out of the loop for a while here due to medical issues, but getting my car back up and running on the road again....

 

My tuner says he's cracked it....but you can't do it on a SCT platform, has to be directly ported from the tuner into the 'puter....which could explain why no mail order guys are even bothering to work on it too much.  He uses HP Tuners which allows for a lot more access to the guts of the PCM, cam timing, etc (and emissions readiness on the rear O2's, etc.....by the by, for those that have inspection issues due to long tubes), so we will see.  All of it is way over my pay grade, but car goes up on rollers next week, and going to redo a 93 pump gas tune on silver, and (if what he is saying is true) doing an E85 tune on the red key. 

 

Will report back if this is successful or not.  Would be a game changer for me if it is....though I suppose a catastrophic failure would also be a game changer!!!

 

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More to come.....

 

 


#8 GrabberBlue

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 10:03 PM

Very interesting.



#9 Rich B.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 04:40 AM

Asked the question myself back awhile ago. And the answer? My idea was TK on red key as is and another tune of choice on silver key. Have no idea if TK is parasitic upon silver key or the 2 options are completely independent.

Not surprising if it could be done at some point (maybe not today) but the Bosses are getting old (antique plates next year) and not sure if reaping the rewards now is worth the time, effort or money?

#10 Skrapmetal

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 03:52 PM

Most of us here drive/drove exclusively with the track key. My silver key was nothing but a spare.

 

I am tuned now and can't think of a reason why I would want a key with a lesser tune. I want the best, and I want it all the time.


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#11 BallwinBoss

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:07 PM

I've got several thoughts on this one.  Got the Track Key done before I even took delivery.  Used it only at the track (as my wife used to hide it from me) for 4 years.  This last year my warranty expired and I was tired of other guys with Boss 302's walking away from me at the track (straights).  Got several changes done to the drive train.  Removed the Cat's, single piece aluminum drive shaft (thanks Benny), JLT CAI and a custom tune.  I don't know much about tuning a car, I certainly know what it does but couldn't do one myself.

 

After these changes the Boss puts 410 the rear wheels.  I know it's not just one thing but 410 is a fair amount of power.  I no longer have problems with the other tuned Boss's.  Am able to run with my buddies in their C5 & C6 'vettes.  Never had an issue with BMW M3's or M4's and still don't.  Z06 and the new ZL1 1LE are too much but that's a whole different game.

 

I can always put the tune back on the Boss after I put the old parts back on but don't know why I'd do that at this point.  Car sounds like it's going to eat you when I start it or rev it up.

 

Will always be a faster car and a better driver.  For my skills and my $$$ this one works just fine.

 

Last point here (as I've rambled)...  I just finished a track day with SCCA today.  Car was faster than it ever has been before - and by a lot.  Some of that is the new pavement, some of that is the perfect weather conditions and some of it the tune.  It all adds up.


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