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New Boss owner and MT-82 issues


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#1 dadkrknght

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:10 AM

This thread is going to be a repetition of many out there; however, because they are old threads and I'm new to the Boss owners I figured I'd ask anyways. I, just like many in the past, am experiencing the whole 1st to 2nd "grind" feel/noise during cold start on the Boss. I am aware that Ford did put out a TSB for the MT-82s recommending the dual clutch oil vs the OEM. The question is did anyone actually do this change and have it work? if so, did you experience any "whining" after the change? Also, lets say I chose not to change it and just decided to let the car warm up, how long does it take for the trans fluid to come up to temp with the OEM fluid? Thank You for the responses in advanced.








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#2 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:20 AM

Hi Dadkrknght:

To answer your question: Yes, my Ford Dealer performed the MT82 TSB and Yes, it helped quite a bit. No, I have no whining noise at all.

On initial startup I allow the Boss to warm up 30-60 seconds. When it comes off cold start high idle. Then I keep my max RPM's below 2,250 shifting to next gear. I travel 1.5 - 2.0 miles and find the MT82 shifts are very smooth. Note: During the first few 1-2 shifts I can feel a slight notcheyness, but after 2.0 miles, she is very smooth with no notcheyness.

Tell us a bit about your Boss 302. Miles, maintenance history, mods if any, Boss production number, build date, etc. might help us to answer more of your questions.

302 Hi Pro

PS: Welcome to the Boss 302 Forum.

2012 KB Boss 302 MC: 500A | Boss Production Line Assembly Number 2800. Vehicle Special Ordered with Recaro Sport Seats & 3.73:1 Torsen Option | Engine: FRPP 84.5MM TB, Peterson CJ Vent Can, TracKey Activated, AirAid CF PJ CAI, FRPP 84.5MM TB | Drivetrain: AE 4.0" Aluminum DS, MGW Gen 3 Race Spec Shifter, GT500 Clutch Pedal Box, FRPP Stainless Clutch Line, Dedicated Clutch Fluid Reservoir, FRPP Trans Cooler Scoop. | Exhaust: Silver Ceramic Kooks Super Street Headers, MagnaFlow Street/Comp 3.0" SS CB X-Pipe System, Open Kooks SS Boss Side Pipes. | Suspension: FRPP "T" Springs (alternate Steeda Boss Rear Springs), Koni Sports (Yellow) Adjustable Struts/Shocks, Steeda HD Camber Plates, Cortex Watts Link, Steeda Billet KB Poly/Spherical LCA's, KB LCA Relo Brkts, Steeda Adj. UCA & Energy Suspension Sys. Upper Diff Housing Bush, OEM Boss Rear Sway Bar | FRPP GT500 Forged wheels, (19X9.0 F & 19X10.0" R) | Brakes: FRPP Boss 302 Cooling Duct Kit, Steeda SS/Kevlar Brake Lines, GT500 13.8" Rear Rotors, GT500 Rear Brake Pads, Dot 4 Motul 600 HT Fluid | Body: FRPP Boss 302S Grill, FRPP Boss 302 LS Front Splitter, FRPP GT500 Rear Spoiler & Serviceable Gurney Strip, BFR Front Tow Hook, Jacking Plates, 3M Window Tint, (35/20), OEM Boss 302 Floor Mats & Boss 302 Car Cover, Pioneer TS-D6802R Speaker System, Auto Dim, Home Link & Compass Mirror. Notes: Current Intake System - Ram Air thru Front Grill Fog Light, OEM CAI Box and AEM Aluminum Intake Tube with Drop-In High Flow Filter. In Testing Spring 2016. SCT-X4 Tuner used exclusively for Data-Logging AFR/Timing Curves Only. FRPP TracKey is Preferred PCM Tune.


#3 dadkrknght

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 11:25 AM

So I bought the car last week and I don't have every detail down packed but the following is what I do know.

 

2012 Boss 302

5,845 miles (yes, that is not a typo)

Oil changes (according to Ford, where the first owner purchased the car) were made every year. Since the guy hardly drove it, changes were made every year.

The car is completely stock.

#2288

I don't know about the build date, that is something that I need to do more research on.

 

Other than that, this is all I know about the car.



#4 TK6

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:28 PM

Mine is kept in the garage, so it doesn't get "real cold", but I notice a difference if I've driven it the day before or not.  The first few shifts are worse if the car hasn't been driven for a day or more.  If I drove it the night before, everything is a little warmer, and the cold shifting is better.  Either way, after about 10 minutes it's all good.  (Except for high RPM lockout---that is always a possibility no matter how hot everything is.)   :cry:



#5 302 Hi Pro

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 02:47 PM

So I bought the car last week and I don't have every detail down packed but the following is what I do know.
 
2012 Boss 302
5,845 miles (yes, that is not a typo)
Oil changes (according to Ford, where the first owner purchased the car) were made every year. Since the guy hardly drove it, changes were made every year.
The car is completely stock.
#2288
I don't know about the build date, that is something that I need to do more research on.
 
Other than that, this is all I know about the car.


Looks like you pretty much bought a new 2012 Boss 302. Nice find.

Build date is on the drivers side door jamb sticker. It's a month year format. I suspect it some where around August-September 2011 time frame.

Look in to a oil catch can for the passenger side PCV valve. This will save some oil vapors from entering your Intake Manifold.

Have the TSM performed and go from there.

302 Hi Pro

2012 KB Boss 302 MC: 500A | Boss Production Line Assembly Number 2800. Vehicle Special Ordered with Recaro Sport Seats & 3.73:1 Torsen Option | Engine: FRPP 84.5MM TB, Peterson CJ Vent Can, TracKey Activated, AirAid CF PJ CAI, FRPP 84.5MM TB | Drivetrain: AE 4.0" Aluminum DS, MGW Gen 3 Race Spec Shifter, GT500 Clutch Pedal Box, FRPP Stainless Clutch Line, Dedicated Clutch Fluid Reservoir, FRPP Trans Cooler Scoop. | Exhaust: Silver Ceramic Kooks Super Street Headers, MagnaFlow Street/Comp 3.0" SS CB X-Pipe System, Open Kooks SS Boss Side Pipes. | Suspension: FRPP "T" Springs (alternate Steeda Boss Rear Springs), Koni Sports (Yellow) Adjustable Struts/Shocks, Steeda HD Camber Plates, Cortex Watts Link, Steeda Billet KB Poly/Spherical LCA's, KB LCA Relo Brkts, Steeda Adj. UCA & Energy Suspension Sys. Upper Diff Housing Bush, OEM Boss Rear Sway Bar | FRPP GT500 Forged wheels, (19X9.0 F & 19X10.0" R) | Brakes: FRPP Boss 302 Cooling Duct Kit, Steeda SS/Kevlar Brake Lines, GT500 13.8" Rear Rotors, GT500 Rear Brake Pads, Dot 4 Motul 600 HT Fluid | Body: FRPP Boss 302S Grill, FRPP Boss 302 LS Front Splitter, FRPP GT500 Rear Spoiler & Serviceable Gurney Strip, BFR Front Tow Hook, Jacking Plates, 3M Window Tint, (35/20), OEM Boss 302 Floor Mats & Boss 302 Car Cover, Pioneer TS-D6802R Speaker System, Auto Dim, Home Link & Compass Mirror. Notes: Current Intake System - Ram Air thru Front Grill Fog Light, OEM CAI Box and AEM Aluminum Intake Tube with Drop-In High Flow Filter. In Testing Spring 2016. SCT-X4 Tuner used exclusively for Data-Logging AFR/Timing Curves Only. FRPP TracKey is Preferred PCM Tune.


#6 TymeSlayer

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 04:26 PM

Damn, someone with less miles than me. 302HP is correct on the oil catch can. I didn't have many shifting issues before or after my upgrades. I have virtually none now and if anything my earlier problems were more likely from not owning a manual for 35 years and operator error. There's a list of fixes but they seem to all point back to the OEM clutch. If I had to do it all over again, I would have started with my clutch replacement first. By the way, I have a fellow MCA member nearby with a completely stock Kona Blue Boss with over 25K miles and he's had no issues from day one. Maybe it's the altitude?  :peelout: 


FRPP 84.5MM Throttle Body / 302S Bumpsteer Kit / FR500S Front Wheel Hub and Rear Wheel Studs / Front Brake Cooling Ducts / LS Dash Gauges / LS Pedestal Spoiler / Recaro Seats/ Stainless Steel Clutch Line / T-Springs / Torsen Differential / TracKey -  BFR Aluminum Rear Brake Caliper Bracket / Fire Extinguisher Mount / Front Tow Hook Kit - BMR A-Arms / Front Drive Shaft Safety Loop / K-Member / Lower Control Arms / Radiator Support / Upper Control Arms / Watts Link - ForgeStar CF5V Matte Black – Mickey Thompson Street Comps - Hawk High Performance Ceramic Pads  - DBA Slotted Rotors - Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines - Kooks Shorty’s Headers / Boss 302 Side Pipes – Borla ATAKs Axle Backs / 2-3/4” Over Axle – MRT H-Pipes -QTP Electric Cutouts - Driveshaft Shop One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft - Airaid Parnelli Jones Cold Air Intake - CoolTech Boss 302 Oil Cooler with T-Stat / 6PT Harness Belts and Clips - Corbeau Harness Bar - Peterson Air-Oil Separator - Moroso Overflow Tank - SPEC Stage 2+ Clutch Kit / Lightweight Steel Flywheel - MGW Race Spec Shifter - Koni Yellow Sports - Maximum Motorsport Caster-Camber Plates  - Aggressor Airflow Engraved Front Splitter

 

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#7 GHIGBoss302

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:37 PM

I run a amsoil cocktail mix in my trans. No issues at all ,little notchy when cold say below 40F but goes away within a mile or two... I got my boss with 10k on it now she has 15k .. Other shifting issues is 90% the clutch. Like others i did all of the little things first. The clutch was the key to everything. Some have issues some dont.. 

 

Now she shifts and drives like butter even at 7800 rpms ..Where before a shift above 7k was a 50/50 shot of not getting lockout. 

 

If you do a clutch ,there are a lot of options. Me -i went twin disk,best choice so far.


2013 GHIG Boss 302 

Mods just a few:

Steeda CAI

Tuners inc= custom tune

Kooks shorty headers

No cats

2013 gt500 cat back 

blowfish racing shifter bracket

DSS one piece driveshaft

2013 gt500 cooling fan

Excedy stage4 clutch w/2013 gt500 master cyl.

Ford racing clutch line

13.8 gt500 rear disks and adapter brackets(so i can run stock brakes during race season)

steeda boss springs

Fully adjustable UPR rear suspension 

 

447rwhp -392rwtq

11.5@120.9 best 1/4 to date

 

 









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