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#1 Rich B.

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 05:53 AM

It occurred to me many that put their cars into storage, start and warm up maybe a few times weekly. Me.... Just use trickle charger and let sit these days for 6 months. Several versions of engine heaters I have used over the years on DD's though. There was the dip stick heater, battery tray hot plate (for air cooled engine) and different versions of coolant warmers. Ford has an OEM option engine heater something as this (looks complicated and redundant) https://www.ebay.com...W-/192067189814 https://www.amazon.c...sl_40quncfb8e_b

Why wouldn't it be best to keep the oil warm vs molasses for all those starts. Could plug in maybe 4 hrs. before actually starting. Would eliminate that initial scuffing of components BO (before oil). Keeping the coolant hot just provides instant heat in car but marginal for oil initial circulation. And yes, the early years and with my road runner, living in the Saco River Valley, 30deg. below was the norm many years and no garage lol. The car started better than summertime with instant heat as had the antifreeze block heater.

The lower radiator hose type didn't work as well as to circulate hot coolant the thermostat had to stay open. Then one time when I worked at Allied Leather and the mechanic put a coolant heater in the bosses car with the water and oil connected together. Started up the car to test and the oil turned to pure sludge lmao. Have to have the right ins and outs and direction with those.

What's the point here...... Sometimes less is more or better. Am changing opinions on things and new ideas continously.

Edited by Rich B., 10 November 2017 - 10:49 AM.







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#2 TymeSlayer

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 06:50 AM

I see your point Rich and would certainly consider something to warm the oil if my car sat outside but leaving her in the raw elements is against my religion and would be considered cruel and unusual punishment in my realm. She's tucked away in a fully insulated garage with an electric heater that would only kick on if the temps drop down below 35 degrees. I've lived in this Colorado home for 14 years now and the coldest I've seen it out there was 40 degrees. Even when it was 10 below outside. Still, you make a good point and if I resided in Canada (Are we leasing Maine from them?) I'd think a block heater would be a good investment. 


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#3 Rich B.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 05:18 AM

Roger that on your garage TS, can eat off the floor there. In ME here some have the heated spaces and like the guy across the road, has a bigger garage than mine and parks his 3 PU's and Jeep outside all the time, never inside lmao. Me, I'm still at cement floor grade, love the open walls to hang things on but do have a Salamander (propane space heater) for any projects. Haven't used in awhile but can crank up to 70deg. on zero days pretty easy. Did motor swap out there one winter, not bad at all. Biggest pain was getting an engine hoist in and out back to the rental place.

Know you'd never drive your Boss in snow but with the heated garages (60deg. F maybe) all the retirement people have their cars rust underneath premature, especially mufflers and exhaust. Something to do with the wet sand and salt plus heat that does it. So they just go buy a new car even before the OEM tires are worn out.

Keep my cars garaged all the time also, won't even go out on sand and slush days (Boss stays in all winter). I remember the times I would pull in, drive out the following morning and there'd be so much melted snow, ice and slush from underneath I'd have to shovel out the garage. So maybe the good ole days weren't that good all the time (much to be said about memory lapse).

Edited by Rich B., 11 November 2017 - 05:26 AM.


#4 TymeSlayer

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:04 AM

I always parked all of my vehicles inside. It helps having the space although I did have to do some creative rearranging to get the new F-150 Screw (Supercrew) truck in there. I think it somewhere around 232 inches long. That's almost 20 feet long! I think out bosses are 188 inches. I feel fortunate to have a 1050 SF garage and have enough space to keep all my cars inside. One really nice benefit is the preservation of the paint. Just got rid of my 2008 Mountaineer and the paint was like new even after 140K miles. It's amazing what the sun does to a good paint job and you can imagine what it does to a crappy one too! 

 

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#5 LSECO

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:38 AM

Dig the features of the new F150.BEST IN IT'S CLASS,I would have to say.
<p><p> 2012 LAGUNA SECA Black/Race Red: The FIRST year of the RETURN of the Boss 302, (Gen.II) Road-Race ready.
L O - J A C K theft recovery system.
Pedestal wing with GT-500 Gurney flap,modified fr. splitter.Halon fire extinguisher.Cervini ram air hood w/heat extractors. Recaro racing seats, race red rear seat delete brace bar,4pt.race red seatbelts and harness bar,r.r. front splitter adj.rods,r.r.coil covers and r.r.shock tower brace.LS race gauge pack.FRPP race brake cooling ducts, Motul 600 race brake fluid, FRPP trans cooling scoop, AEM intake tube kit, oil catch can-pass side only, FRPP TRACKEY,SilverHorse gas filler lid.MMD satin black tail light surrounds,MMD Carbon fiber wrapped hood gas struts, projector headlights w/sequential turn signals and emergencies,rear brake/emergencies sequencers.CSI protective smoke head light covers-daytime use only, satin black LS faux gas cap.Honeycomb ELEANOR grill w/hidden LED HALO fogs,honeycomb front lower grill,limo tint on rear glass ONLY,LED interior, license plate, and trunk lighting, satin silver billet e-brake handle, mirror adj.knob ,shifter ball,rear seatbelt mounting covers.Eibach Sportline road racing lowering springs(installed by Eibach), FRPP 1pc. aluminium drive shaft,Bama "tunes for life", Kooks long tube headers,Kooks cat delete offroad X-pipe,resonator delete over axle pipes,On-3-Go muffler deletes.
Custom smoke/nickel chrome, LIGHTWEIGHT 19X10 wheels-295×30×19 fronts-295x30x19 rears w/Hoosier R6 tyres for spirited driving, Pirelli P Zero Corsa tires on stock RED rims for inclement monsoon weather, Carbotech brake pads, race red Brembo calipers,FRPP GT500 rear rotors conversion, MGW Race spec.III shifter,Whiteline trans mount bushing, J&M adjustable panhard bar.Dual clutch transmission fluids,

(just a SMIDGEON of mods compared to most of "MY BOSSBROS") All LS take-off parts are packaged up..... There is no such thing as a "REGULAR" Boss !!   :rockon:   


                                 

#6 guillaume69

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 01:00 PM

Now thats a nice and very well organized garage youve got there, TS. I am like this too. Need to keep my stuff tidy all the time.

As far as sun and paint go, I heard they use Florida sun to test paint quality on new cars.

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Edited by guillaume69, 11 November 2017 - 01:00 PM.

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#7 Rich B.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 05:54 AM

That is a gorgeous truck TS. The red is one of my favorites too, maybe a bit metallic. Makes me think (oh no, not again), I use a tennis ball suspended from ceiling for stopping. So when it bumps the windshield, time to hit the brakes. Have seen too things on the floor that block the ft. tires for stopping. And what about the air bags inbetween cars or wall so as not to ding doors, Ronco sales or something lmao.

Remember years ago actually had a 2x4 bolted to the floor. Not for stopping so much but to brace ramps. Every time I'd get a car halfway up they would catapult out from underneath. The floor was so polished it's actually slippery at times.

Edited by Rich B., 12 November 2017 - 06:01 AM.


#8 TymeSlayer

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 08:53 AM

Thanks guys.

 

I use a sight line on the wall and the front hood to know when I'm in far enough. My wife on the other hands has bad eyesight (Glaucoma) and one of these day will plow into my workbench. I suggested the old tennis ball to windshield trick and she was insulted. Said it was for old ladies. I think they make an electric one that uses some kind of reflector to tell you when your in close enough. I think it's settable to whatever distance you want. Might look into it, or is that "Old Lady" too?


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#9 Rich B.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:04 AM

The old lady syndrome works just fine for me, the past 30 years and before. Was 42yo and know it's common practice but didn't hear about until long after I tried it where we live now. Old man at 42...... I only could of wished.

Use tennis ball on the outside table umbrella stub too. Just tarp over table and chairs for winter. Leave umbrella up all summer (tilted). Have table bolted down and stand offs attached to webbing. Not going anywheres, may of this past storm with 70mph steady winds?

Edited by Rich B., 13 November 2017 - 05:25 AM.









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